Posts by Pete Zahut

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Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

Pete Zahut

"What's good for the goose is good for the gander'. The Governing Body(tm) needs to have their foolishness rubbed in their faces as much as possible.

"Yes...I agree, the Society is far too concerned about projecting their own image via it's members personal dress and grooming. Lets not be like them.

This girl was presumably not visiting Bethel, not on her way to the meeting or engaged in the ministry. She was walking by herself in a wheat field on what looked like a warm day wearing a light cotton dress. It is what it is....if we want to be critical, why not question why she's in a field playing the violin instead of "in the field " saving lives or wonder about the time she spent learning the violin instead of spending it in the ministry.? This business about it being a "major screw-up" because one can see a barely noticeable outline of her underwear seems kinda' silly.

-just sayin'

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Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

Pete Zahut

Pffft....big deal....a barely perceptible panty line...so what ? OMG her arms are bare and Gasp, did I see and ankle ??

In my opinion, it's the viewers problem if he or she chooses to scrutinize things so closely so as to see something improper about the way the girl is dressed.

If the GB would have declined to use the video because of ( VPL ) visible panty line, there would be those saying JW's are too uptight. When they go ahead and use it, some say have a double standard.

I think people can sometimes go overboard when it comes to being critical. (he said critically)

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JWs exist because...

by oldskool in

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one sentence answers only.. here's mine:.

jws exist because people want an escape from the modern world and are willing to give up intellectual freedom to get it..

Pete Zahut

JW's exist because a Charlatan who lived before the turn of the last century, discovered that power prestige and money could be had, by targeting vulnerable people and offering them a seemingly free program that highlighted and focused on their worst fears while simultaneously offering them a magical escape that employed convoluted and unprovable doctrine as evidence of it's being from a higher authority.

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Gorby wishes you a happy convention! (picture)

by Gorbatchov in

gorby has been offline from jwd for some weeks, and it made my situation not better, have had some serious problems with the fading, much pressure, i have nothing new to say, it must be very similar to the situation of many faders here.. so, i had so much pressure, that we have had to change our holiday booking so we are able to visit the convention, due to family reasons, you all know what i mean.. please wish me (and us) much luck for this summer.

it is not my best summer season in life.. this is how i feel:.

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Pete Zahut

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Who's getting the money donated for building and remodeling?

by oppostate in

look at these two photos from africa.. .

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who's getting the money donated for kh building and remodeling?.

Pete Zahut

I'll bet no one falls asleep at the meeting or has to stay after to vacuum the floor and clean the restrooms.

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How Long Does This Religion Have Left?

by pale.emperor in

the generation that will be no means pass away have passed away.. the 144,000 were sealed up in 1935, oh, no wait, we got that wrong, we still have some.. russel is the faithful and wise servant... oh, no he wasn't it was me, rutherford... no, actually, we got that wrong it's knorr... erm, no we mean the governing body.. shunning is pagan, true christians would never do that (1946)... oh, actually, we should do that too.. the revelation book has been re-written.. the un is the satan's visible organisation.. wtbs signs up for fellowship with the un in 1991.. exposed in the guardian newspaper so ends it's fellowship in 2001.. the greatest man book is now obsolete and replaced with another jesus book.. the mags are reduced in pages.. encouraged to use tablets instead of actual books to save paper (money).

halls being sold off.. congregations sharing halls.. society owned buildings being sold off.. video pertitioning for money only last year to fund a new building.. bethelites reduced.. missionaries sent back home.. young members leaving.. long time members discovering the history and leaving.. how long do you think this religion has left?

i cant see it being here in another 100 years.

Pete Zahut

Despite what they believe and what we were taught, the existence of Jehovah's Witnesses (evidently as we now see) has never actually depended upon their being the true religion, having Gods direction, the making of prophesies that come true or in the clarity of their teachings. This has become clear in view of the failed prophecies, obsolete literature and reversals of major teachings.

It's a case of "If you build it, they will come". I someone puts an idea or product our there and sticks with it, eventually they will find a taker. Detroit built some pretty ugly and unreliable cars back in the day but no matter what they built, throngs of people were convinced to pay a lot of money for them and spent years of their lives paying them off.

No matter what JW's do or say, they will always find a following among a certain cross section of the population who want or can be convinced to want what JW's have to offer. I don't think they will ever go away.

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It's now okay to applaud when someone is reinstated?

by eyeuse2badub in

anyone else notice that in the video where the sister was reinstated after many years of freedom, that the congregation applauded at the announcement of her reinstatement?

it been a few years since i was an elder, but when i was, we were instructed by the co that it was "not appropriate" to applaud when the announcement of a reinstatement is made from the platform.

his words, "because the one being reinstated is only doing what they should be doing!".

Pete Zahut

In the last decade or more, our Congregation always applauded when someone got baptized, appointed as a pioneer, aux pioneer, servant and reinstated,

Before that, I remember there'd be an awkward silence after such announcements. The applause sort of filled that gap and made it easier to seque into the next announcement.

When there'd be an announcement about a reinstatement, there'd always be approving smiles directed toward the (oft times) sobbing person being reinstated .

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"Just don't overthink the truth"

by stuckinarut2 in

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so after almost a year of complete inactivity and non attendance, i ran into a nice brother from the local congregation.. after some nice chit-chat, he says "we really miss you and your family...etc...you were always the kind and supportive one, the approachable and encouraging one in the congregation.

your absence has confused so many".

i thanked him and said "oh no, no individual has stumbled us.

Pete Zahut

"He replied "oh, just don't overthink the truth!. Finding out things will only cause you to lose faith. Just come back"

Under thinking is definitely the way to go if you want to remain a JW and not loose your mind.

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Lett facial ticks from a stroke/aneurysm?

by azor in

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i was speaking to my mom the other day.

she stays in the group to retain a relationship with the rest of our in family.

she told me that she heard from one of my brothers that the reason lett makes all those weird facial gestures has something to do with a stroke or aneurysm when he was a younger man.

Pete Zahut

It seems he has no trouble animating his face as is often the case with a medical issue. The problem is that his facial expressions and gestures are above and beyond what is necessary and he comes off as condescending and annoying to most people.

If they are concerned about beards distracting people from the "message", it's not a kind thing to say but maybe Lett should grow one just to cover up his distracting facial expressions.

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Does the governing body know what they are doing?

by Gefangene in

what do you guys think?.

are they only some uber religious zealots or do they pursue hidden agendas beyond religiosity?.

Pete Zahut

In a way, they remind me of rich kids who inherited the family business from their hard working, self sacrificing Grandfather who built the business from the bottom up. They like wearing nice suits, wearing pinky rings, being treated like celebrities wherever they go and they like the idea of being influential businessmen but it sure appears they haven't a clue about what it took to get the organization where it is today.

As I said in another post, they have been given a prestigious job to do and a role to play and have become overly "officious" about it. Since the simpler, grass roots days of the "International Bible Students" the WT organization has taken on a life of it's own. The current leaders are riding along on a freight train that was put in motion back in the day when people were quite gullible about what those in positions of power were really up to. In the early days of the Bible Students, they offered information to the public and answered questions from readers. Before long they began thinking of themselves as the final authority on all things Biblical and that's when this business of running the religion as if were the nation of Israel, began.

Things have changed, printing isn't what it used to be and the general public isn't afraid to ask questions of those in authority. I think todays GB may really believe in what they are doing but their "officiousness" has caused them to become unnecessarily bureaucratic, providing unwanted, unrequested and unnecessary advice and services and they have become meddlesome in their followers personal relationship with God and in their personal lives.